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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2006-12-13, 19:52:46
anonymous from Canada  
2006-12-13, 20:12:46
anonymous from Canada  
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Big time dating scammer!!!Wanted to get married after first letter,once the second letter showed up I started to get request's immediatly for cash!!!Well good luck BITCH....We need to stick together guys heres her info,she's on several web sights,but here's the amazing thing?I discovered her on Anastasiaweb her name is Victoria her I.D.#1087519 not only is she so bold as to post her profile with Anastasiaweb but the retard is listed on there anti-scam page.She is on there blacklist on page.3 under the name Victoria Potapenko. But here is the best part,after contacting the company and explaining the situation all I got was the run around and was told by there american counterpart to contact the moscow office.So I contacted the moscow office and basically I explained they had a bona-fied scammer on there hands ?What did they do ,they laughed about it and her profile is still on the 'Anastasiaweb'sight.Not only that she is also still on there blacklist on page.3 I guess Anastasiawebs more interested in dollars then taking care of it's american clients????!!!!Beware guys,when it comes to sending dollars just don't do it,no matter how desperate they seem!!!!Beware???!!!


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2006-12-13, 20:21:09
anonymous from United States  
2006-12-13, 21:24:50
anonymous from Canada  
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Total scammer!!!!Beware!!!Victoria Potapenko a.k.a Dj Natasha


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2006-12-13, 21:27:09
anonymous from Canada  
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Scammer Victoria I.D.#1087519-anastasiaweb.....Beware guys!!!


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2006-12-13, 21:28:31
anonymous from Canada  
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Scamming bitch!!!Victoria again!!!!


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2006-12-14, 02:23:53
JPK from United Kingdom  
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Hey another part to the EKaterina saga! ;D LMAO

Hi my good friend ****!

Good day today!!! I as to speak you many thanks for that that you to answer my letter and you want to have a meeting. For me really it is very interesting to look your country and to find worthy work in your country.
I really to want to visit your country to have work in your country and I as I want to find worthy the man for me............ It would be valid very well. And I hope for it.
I to have it is valid to have money to visit your country and I not have only the friend for myself which could to show me your country and to accept me as the friend.
I really to require that that my arrival to the in your country has been prepared also I has arrived in your country already knowing in her though one person.
I think that the your country has the high prices. I think that my money I can remain enough to pay hotel for 2-3 days but if you can find to me a place where I, I can remain together with you approximately for 2 months. I as can and work for you in the house to fulfil money for my habitation. I very much want to visit the your country and I can do any work.
I shall already receive my visa on December, 19 and I can already fly to you on December, 20. I think that it would be very good if I could arrive to you.
But I as to have some questions for you and I hope that you to answer me my questions very soon because it really very important for me.
December, 20 it is good dates of our meeting? Where there is the nearest airport from your house?
I can remain in the in your country for 2-3 days but if you can find a place for me I can remain longer. Please inform where I can remain.
I can buy the ticket in 2 ends, but for purchase of the ticket I should know date of return flight. You inform what is the time want that I remained together with you?

Ok, write to me of more ideas about our meetings. Also send more than your photos if it probably. I send still a photo of me. I wait with impatience of your prompt reply.

Ekaterina.
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Poor girl must have some money, she put on tons of weight in the space of 4 hours! lmao

Check the pic difference!


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2006-12-14, 03:01:36
anonymous from Netherlands  
Hi guys,
I'm living in Belgium. A girl called Alya(na) Smol (Email address: al_smol@list.ru) has been trying to scam me for more than two months. She is saying that she loves me ;-) and that she wants to come in Belgium to meet me. But she needs my money to get her VISA. What a pity!!!
I noticed (see a comment below) that she is also trying to scam a man from Canada.
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2006-12-14, 03:13:54
anonymous from Netherlands  
Here is an Email (example) from Alya(na) Smol(enceva):

'I very much like to observe beautiful declines
I am very glad My dear, that you have the serious approach to business. I want
to tell to you, that
I am ready to overcome any obstacles to arrive to you. I think, all over again I
should
To arrive to embassy in Moscow, to receive the visa. I think, that optimum will
be tourist
The visa. As far as I know, she will operate 90 days. For this time, I think,
that we can firmly solve,
Whether we approach each other whether or not. I want to be loved by you! I
think, that between us all will be excellent!
I think, that I should go to Moscow, and to stay there some time, to set in
motion to registration of the visa.
I asked about the visa of the bride. But unfortunately, she is made out too
difficultly.
My Dear, now I would like to talk about that, how many it will cost, that our
hearts were united.
Understand, for me it is the most unpleasant conversation in the world.... It is
very a shame to me and it is awkward.... I do not know even as
To begin conversation with you about it... The matter is that when to me have
told, how many all our happiness will cost, I nearly have not fainted. It is the
astronomical sum! I do not know, how such money can be asked for that two loving
hearts were united! It is awful! I do not hope at all that you have so much
money. About my God, I am ready to sell grandmother gold ear rings to enclose a
small part of the money! Please do not forbid to me to do it! I know, how it is
hard to earn money, therefore I do not want to be for you a unnecessary cargo.
In a pawnshop to me have told, that I can receive 75 dollars for them. If at me
were money, I seconds would not think of regretting them for our happiness. What
do you think of it? Whether you will begin to help me that I have arrived to
you? I am valid to you is necessary?
I hope, that your feelings is sincere, and you really want, that I have arrived
to you!'



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2006-12-14, 03:40:42
anonymous from Netherlands  
I forgot to mention that Alya(na) Smol(enceva) contacted me via the COOLBOX website (www.coolbox.be). She also contacted the man from Canada via that website. The comment of this man is above (not below).


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2006-12-14, 06:53:02
anonymous from Turkey  
i took one of the message like these.. she is from russi.. and sent me photo... what is this.. are they real???
2006-12-14, 09:59:59
anonymous from United States  



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2006-12-14, 11:09:12
anonymous from United States  
NIGERIAN SCAMMER...WENT BY TESSA GREEN FROM 'ARLINGTON VA.'
EM ADD. :TESSA44REAL@YAHOO.COM
SENT FAKE MO's FOR ME TO 'CASH' YEA RIGHT!
MET ON IWANTU.....THAT SITE IS SO FULL OF SCAMMERS IT'S INCREDIBLE.
BTW...BOTH PARENTS KILLED AT WTC! NICE HUH? A REAL 'MUGU'!
2006-12-14, 14:24:57
anonymous from United States  



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2006-12-14, 18:34:58
anonymous from United States  



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