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Are you an American or Western European man exchanging emails with a girl from Russia? I was contacted by a girl who turned out to be a scammer. Reader Derrick put together some great advice how to detect scammers.
I only have one advice (#8) to add: If a Russian girl tells you that she will get a visa to the USA instead of inviting you, that is - under the current immigration law - a SURE sign that SHE LIES.

Here is the process how a Russian woman can come to the USA:

If she is considered a relatively young/ attractive woman (let's say under 40, hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings here), then there is virtually NO CHANCE THAT SHE GETS A TOURIST VISA TO THE USA. First the Russian Federation will not allow her to leave the country. Then, even if she was getting out, the USA will deny her admission. The reasoning is that she is considered a risk. How could she not be a risk? If she had family in Russia (husband, children) or a valuable business or real estate. Most likely the woman who writes you will be considered a risk. The only way for her to get a visa into the USA is this procedure:

  1. the foreign man visits her in her native area in Russia
  2. they get engaged during such a visit - take photos of the 2 of you together
  3. he flies back and applies for a K-1 visa. A K-1 visa is also known as Fiancee visa, used for marriage-based immigration
  4. once the K1 visa is granted, the girl can enter the USA and stay there for 3 months. By the end of these 3 months you HAVE to GET MARRIED or the girl has to go back home.
  5. if you get married, the girl gets a greencard and can work
  6. after 3 years of marriage, the girl can apply for a US citizenship. That's when they interview you to find out if it's a real marriage. She also has to answer some questions about US history, political system, etc etc.


Here are Derrick's tricks (1-7) that he uses immediately from the start:
  1. GOOGLE or websearch the first part of the scammers first emails and/or 'profile'. SEE HOW MANY OTHER SITES their listed on! RECORD THOSE SITES FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. THAT alone can give you a good idea IF your dealing with a scammer OR not.
  2. GOOGLE or websearch the return email address. See how many 'hits' come from that search and also note all the sites. (many times you'll see the email end up on a 'scammers list') IF YOU FIND THE EMAIL ADDRESS LISTED ON A SCAMMER LIST - don't bother further, your only fooling yourself - no matter what excuse they might give you.
  3. FROM THE START - ASK FOR SPECIFIC INFOMATION! A full name, address, phone number - something. OFFER THE SAME in exchange, except make it a P.O. box and a CELL PHONE rental card that will protect your identity. If you see your requests ignored, which you usually will, don't waste your time further.
  4. ALWAYS ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS that would REQUIRE A SPECIFIC ANSWER outside the use of FORM LETTERS. IF YOU FIND your questions go unaddress in your reply emails from 'them/her' - YOUR DEALING WITH A SCAMMER. Again, don't bother further.
  5. DON'T WAIT 6 MONTHS to offer to talk with the PROSPECT by phone! WHAT A TOTAL WASTE OF TIME! IF THERE IS CHEMISTRY OR APPEARS 'INTEREST' BETWEEN THE TWO OF YOU - then sieze the opportunity. ARRANGE A PHONE CALL! International rates to Russia and most places are reasonably cheap. IF YOU GET THE REPLY ' I'M SO POOR I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A PHONE' - drop the whole thing, your only wasting your time and WILL BE SCAMMED at some point in the future.
  6. PHOTO FLOOD! IF IT/SHE/HIM/THEM - LOOK TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE - THEN IT PROBABLY IS! MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE SCAMMES USE PHOTOS OF MODELS IN THEIR HOME COUNTRIES TO POSE ON THE NET IN THEIR PROFILE(s)! Consider this - IF THEY LOOK like a MODEL then tell you they're so poor they don't have access to a phone - YOUR BEING SCAMMED!

    ASK FOR A SPECIAL PHOTO TO BE TAKEN. IF YOU SENT YOURS, HAVE THEM TAKE A PHOTO SHOWING THEM HOLDING UP YOUR PHOTO IN THE PICTURE! That is a good 'scammer filter' - even the most adept with Photoshop will easily be spoted.

    BETTER STILL - ASK THEM TO TAKE A PHOTO THAT SHOWS THEM HOLDING A CURRENT NEWPAPER OF YOUR CHOICE OR THEIR COUNTRY, WITH A RESOLUTION THAT YOU CAN READ THE DATE! NOT some low grade - grainy photo! FEW WILL EVER DO THAT.

    AT THE LEAST - ASK THEM FOR A PHOTO of them wearing a specific combination of clothes and/or colors - something different then the usual 'model clothing' - most use to send out. OR AN OBJECT - TOASTER, ELECTRIC CLOCK, BY A COUCH, IN A ROCKING CHAIR something that would be very hard to use PHOTOSHOP to just PUT in another FILE PHOTO.

    *** IF this person is real or sincere, they won't mind doing this for you! ALSO - offer to do the same for their comfort also - that is only fair.
  7. IF THINGS GET SERIOUS - then ASK THEM TO DELETE ALL THEIR OTHER WEB PROFILE POSTS! CHECK ON THE ONES YOU NOTED EARLIER! Again, IF THEIR SINCERE - they will - happily as your their DREAM and future!
  8. If she talks about getting a visa or that she needs money to get a travel visa to the USA, she lies. See the proper course of action described at the top.



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2013-08-25, 11:05:56
wanwan from Japan  
@OJAS & Miss marple in highway star

Hey ! I see you are in beautiful life.
Great.

I am scamming Big boobs in Russia.But she does not email me back,why?

She(he)is busy now in scamming others?

LOL


mata-ne!

(He is in bath)


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2013-08-25, 11:54:07
OJAS from United States  
@USA, (previous page)
Pl. listen to Miss Marple and put your money in a safe place.

Start your homework with http://moscow.usemb..cams.html

Never let a scammer know that HE has been uncovered! Notice the HE in upper case!

Useful reverse image search tools:
http://google.com/imghp
http://google.com/i..mage.html
http://tineye.com

Keep reporting your experience, include IP trace, X-Mailer.

Grande Finale articles start with http://www.delphifa..p=8#168643
2013-09-02, 11:49:23   (updated: 2013-09-02, 11:50:54)
anonymous from Denmark  



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2013-09-02, 11:52:16
anonymous from Denmark  



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2013-09-02, 11:52:57
anonymous from Denmark  



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2013-09-02, 12:53:02
Miss Marple from United States  

Real ID Oksana Gurova Оксана Гурова ,Nude Model,Russia


http://leca77.livej..6799.html
http://www.fashiont..a_gurova/

Fake profile used by scammers:
http://www.aforeign..0_adf024a7


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2013-09-02, 12:58:49
Miss Marple from United States  

Real ID Oksana Gurova Оксана Гурова ,Nude Model,Russia





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2013-09-06, 12:34:08
anonymous  
I have met that Rocco several time at expatriate parties here in Madrid and I can confirm that he is a: liar, whoremonger, arrogant, little sad man. He definitely cannot be trusted for anything. He also use to speak ill of everybody. All he care is have some cash to spend with prostitute e champagne. Avoid him!
2013-09-08, 01:58:16
anonymous from Finland  
Hi everybody! About this Tatyana Pogadaeva. For how long time you've been dating her? My dating started at 2013 March the 5th, and it continues still. Please answer, everybody...
Thank you!


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2013-09-08, 02:17:01
anonymous from Finland  
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Hi everybody! About this Tatyana Pogadaeva. For how long time you've been dating her? My dating started at 2013 March the 5th, and it continues still. Please answer, everybody...
Thank you!
2013-09-08, 04:39:58   (updated: 2013-09-08, 05:19:13)
anonymous  
My friend has been 'dating' Tatyana Pogadaeva over 6 months I think.
They met on the dating site and Tanya contacted him by sending her picture.
After few weeks she wanted to meet him and needed some money for the ticket then for the customs then for her friend who needed help and so on.
2013-09-08, 05:09:52   (updated: 2013-09-08, 05:13:52)
anonymous  
anonymous from Finland : She is just scamming you. You should stop all contact and don´t send her money because this is criminal activity and only business for them. Nothing else :(
2013-09-08, 08:13:10
anonymous from Tampere, Finland  
Anonyymi Suomesta. Ystäväni lähetti sähköpostilla tämän ketjun kun en muuten uskonut, ja myönnän olen ollut idiootti. Ja tosiaan taitanut tämä neiti kusettaa meitä molempia ja useampaa muutakin.Otti minuun yhteyttä E-kontakti-palvelun kautta keväällä, kaunis tyttö lähes puolta minua nuorempi. Vannoi rakkautta ja sovittiin tapaamisesta, hänelle oli hankala soittaa, vain hän pystyi silloin tällöin soittamaan. Sitten tuli rahaongelmia, matkalippuun meni lähes 500 euroa, lähes pari tonnia tarvittiin rajan ylitykseen.Vieläkään ei ole tyttö luonani :DKalliiksi tuli nämä oppirahat...
2013-09-08, 09:25:07
OJAS from United States  
It looks like the girl on this page http://www.delphifa..p=2#59625

NEVER SEND MONEY TO STRANGERS!
2013-09-08, 16:52:41
Miss Marple from United States  
2013-09-08, 08:13:10
anonymous from Tampere, Finland

Terve Suomi ,olen iloinen että löysit tänne koska et ole ainoa kuka on joutunut huijareitten hampaisiin tällä tavalla .Mutta olen pahoillaan että olet tavannut huijarin .Venäläiset huijarit teeskentelevät olevansa joku kaunis ja nuori nainen joka hakee rakkautta euroopasta tai yhdysvalloista .Ne rakastuvat aika nopeasti ja sitten kysyvät rahaa lentolippuun ja matka rahaa. Mutta kaikki on vain valletta tietenkin . Nä rosvot maksavat kanssa jonkun ruplan jolle naiselle joka hoitaa kaikki puhelut miehille.

Kaikki valokuvat on hommattu jostain netistä,varastettu tietenkin. Siis ne naiset ei ole missään tekemissä näissä huijauksissa.

Voisitko laittaa tällä ketjulle valokuvia tästä naisesta ? Sä autat tällä tavalla toisia uhria jotka hakevat tietoja tästä huijarista kanssa . Älä lähetä enää rahaa !!
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